 | Any up for a bit of beta testing for me? |
| Any up for a bit of beta testing for me? |
Any up for a bit of beta testing for me? | ||
| I have an online tutorial nearly finished, it requires Photoshop CS2 though... | ||
| Adrian Warren (AdrianW) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #1 Added: 2005-12-28 21:47:47 | |
| So, here's the link Feelin' blue Have fun, and please - if you have any constructive feedback, it would be appreciated :) | ||
| Camille (cnut) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #2 Added: 2005-12-30 00:32:31 | |
| Adrian, I would love to but I only have PE2. Good luck with your project. Camille | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #3 Added: 2005-12-30 00:42:50 | |
| You can participate with PE 2.0. I gave it a try last night, didn't get the same results as Adrian. I sent my version to him via email and he remembered that he had left out a step. | ||
| Camille (cnut) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #4 Added: 2006-01-02 18:43:02 | |
| Thanks Bob, so I shall play :) . Thanks so much for the tutorial Adrian. I followed your instructions to the letter when I could in PE2. The exceptions are as follows: 1. Adjusting Levels: Thanks for explaining this. I can't wait to play with this again. One thing that I did notice is that for me to line up the Black and White tri-angles like you did on the histogram my numerical values were slightly different: Red=10/1.00/159; Green=13/1.00/193; Blue=16/1.00/245. I entered your numerical values to work the image. Not a big difference in appearance between the two values but I got closer to your image using my values. 2. Align/Rotate: Thanks for the alt/options trick but this did not offer any options when applied to the eye-dropper tool. Hence I did not get the ruler tool so I did the following from the menu bar: Image/Rotate/Custom and used 11.5 deg left as my rotation value. 3. Cropping: When I select the crop tool the square maintains an aspect ratio. Is there a way to crop free-form that you know of using the crop tool in PE2? My work around has been to use the square selection tool. I usually do a loose crop then followed by a tighter and hopefully final crop. I needed to do that twice to get the crop correct. I am not a fan of cropping in this program, am I doing something wrong here? I would love it to have independent crop handles for each side of the image. 4. Sharpening: I used USM and your values with the threshold set to 1 since PE2 does not offer Smart Sharpen. Can you explain the angles value PSCS2 showed in Smart Sharpen? 5. I now notice that your image is rather brighter and whiter than mine. I noticed that it was different in the sharpening preview window as well. Would this have been caused by the sharpening method or is the step that Bob mentions being missing at fault? To match our images as close as possible from the menu bar I did an Enhance/Adjust Brightness-Contrast/Brightness-Contrast /Brightness Value=+20/Contrast Value=-20. By the way is sharpening supposed to be the last step? The loaded the images I worked up to my blog below: http://www.jeber.com/Members/cnut/Blog/44.html They are as follows: Sminitalcub - your level values with brightness/contrast adjustments made. Sminitalcuba - my level values with brightness/contrast adjustments made. Closest to you final cub. Sminitalcubb - your level values with no brightness/contrast adjustments made. Smfinalcub - You final image. Interesting how different they all are. Any comments or advice is welcome. Adrian this was a great learning tool and I would love to do this sort of stuff again. [Edited: 18:47 - cnut ] | ||
| Adrian Warren (AdrianW) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #5 Added: 2006-01-02 20:53:27 | |
| Hi Camille, thanks for having a look! Also thanks for the feedback - it's appreciated. Levels - the exact values don't really matter, a little variation is fine - a lot of variation is where the trouble comes in ;) Align/Rotate - I knew Measure wasn't in PSE2, wasn't sure about later versions though - it's a shame they didn't include it, because I think it's really useful! Cropping - interesting. Fairly certain that you should be able to crop arbitrary aspect ratios in PSE2, Bob? Sharpening - yes USM is close to SmartSharpen, although not as good - it'll do :) The angle value is used when you select the Motion Blur option (as opposed to Lens Blur and Gaussian Blur (GB = USM)), you use it to tell PS the direction of motion blur. To be honest I haven't been impressed with that so far! Brightness - yup, that's the missing step Bob mentioned :( Should have been a Curves step, which I somehow managed to forget somewhere along the line... Sharpening is the penultimate step - SavingForWeb is the final step, but I haven't written it yet! Once again thanks for the feedback :) Happy New Year! A | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #6 Added: 2006-01-03 04:14:19 | |
| Cropping - free cropping in PSE is no problem. I suspect you've got some sizes/dimensions set. Look at the tool bar that shows the crop symbol after you select it. You should see 'Width' and 'Height' boxes. Got numbers? If those boxes are blank you should be able to free crop. If you put in numbers, say 6 and 4, then you will be get a box that has a 6:4 ratio. Use that when setting up for a 6" x 4" print. | ||
| Camille (cnut) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #7 Added: 2006-01-03 16:30:55 | |
| Hi Adrian, You are more than welcome. I hope you offer us more of these exercises they are very useful. Thanks so much, Camille Hi Bob, Thanks for the tip and you were right, there were numerical values in the boxes. I deleted the values in the boxes and I still have the crop tool behaving in the same manner. I don't know if the aspect ratio was the same or not but there was still a fixed ratio. I even closed the image I was working with re-opened it again and still no change. This time when I chose the crop tool the values were blank. What else could I be doing wrong here? This function really is frustrating in PE2 and it forces me to crop 95% or more of my images in another program, Microsoft Office Picture Manager. Their crop tool works similar to Picasa2 without the hassles of Picasa's file management. When you select the crop function crop handles appear on all sides. All one has to do is move the desired handles in and confirm the crop. Does PE2 not offer this ease of cropping? Is this the same in Photoshop as well? Thanks again, Camille [Edited: 16:33 - cnut - additional text] | ||
| Adrian Warren (AdrianW) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #8 Added: 2006-01-03 17:40:10 | |
| Re: PSE crop tool Actually you should have draggable corners etc - I seem to remember PSE2 having them. Try using the Crop Tool and going to the View menu, and selecting Extras - hopefully that'll fix it :) Photoshop has a nasty tendency to save the workspace exactly as it was last used, often this is a good thing, sometimes it leads to no end of confusion - my brother always changes settings whenever he uses my computer :rolleyes: Once I've finished this tutorial a lens comparison review is on my list. Not much use to anyone except the Canon SLR users though! [Edited: 17:42 - AdrianW ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #9 Added: 2006-01-04 01:40:49 | |
| OK, I started up my PSE 2.0 again. When you select the crop tool there is a small box to the right of the Width/Height/Pixels per Inch that says "Clear". Try clicking on it. Then Left Click on the image and hold the button down. Move your mouse (I use a track ball) to a different point on the image. That should give you a rectangle. Along the sides of the rectangles should be some small squares. L Click/hold/drag should move only that one side of the rectangle. On the corners should be some of the same small squares. L Click/hold/drag should move the corner of the crop. Right click and 'Crop' or 'Cancel'. See if that works. | ||
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