 | Bob's Big Desire... |
| Bob's Big Desire... |
Bob's Big Desire... | ||
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| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #1 Added: 2005-06-09 12:41:00 | |
| I'd like another "Reply" page for the Workshops. I'd like something pretty much like the "Workshop > Start Workshop" page. I'd like to see the image with a short/wide input box under it, followed by all discussions and thumbnails. And when clicking on a Re-post thumbnail I'd like to see the same page but with both images shown side/side - top/bottom. All pages would show all discussions and all Re-posts for that image. (IMHO this is all that's left to make the Workshop Clubs very sweet. So if you find time then have a few and put them on my tab. ;o) | ||
| Andy Leach (RedAndy) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #2 Added: 2005-06-10 06:55:48 | |
( I posted to this thread earlier, maybe it got lost in thee outage. Here's an overview of the missing post ) I'd like something pretty much like the "Workshop > Start Workshop" page. ditto. I'd like a short, fat reply box just below the images. My ideal page would look something like {image}{image/exif} {reply box} {OP comments}{Exif} {other comments and image 'thumbs'} (NOTE: I don't want exif twice, I'd just like it to get bumped to alongside OP comments when viewing a revision) Right now I'm using the 'start workshop' page and reply 1 exclusively. I'm very happy to not be using the pop-up anymore, that was a pita - too much faffing about trying to find the relevant comments and then getting back to type my own. I'd like the above as: it's the closest to the 'fixed' box that IE can't handle. If we can have the above with sufficient classes and id's then we can always roll our own CSS, but the basic page as delivered will be very useable and intuitive, imho. All pages would show all discussions and all Re-posts for that image.I'd like this too, it doesn't make sense from a user persepctive to be missing them - it makes it more difficult to jump between versions and compare. ( I like these quotes, very cute :-) [Edited: 06:56 - RedAndy ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #3 Added: 2005-06-10 08:30:51 | |
| quote Sort of got that Spanish inverted question mark thing going for it. I'm also using Reply 1 box on a 'best available' basis. Replying with a Re-post. Maybe too complicated, but it would be nice to be able to upload, see the OP and Re-post and then enter the text. I'm doing this now by using 'Edit' which makes be feel that it would be the best system for us memory-challenged folks. | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #4 Added: 2005-06-10 08:47:42 | |
| Right now I'm using the 'start workshop' page and reply 1 exclusively RedAndy Thanks for the feedback - I'm sure I can make the reply work for both of you - the way I'm reading it is that something similar to the start workshop is ideal, with all the replies available, and an ability to do side by side views. I'll stitch everything together in this way soon - all the blocks are there just a case of rearranging.. | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #5 Added: 2005-06-10 08:51:21 | |
| Maybe too complicated, but it would be nice to be able to upload, see the OP and Re-post and then enter the text. - BobTrips It's more complicated than the existing way of doing things - but it is possible, I'll see what I can do on the next rework. [Edited: 08:51 - Ali ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #6 Added: 2005-06-10 09:00:03 | |
| This last 'text after upload' may be idiosyncratic to me. I like to look back and forth at the two images and then make my comments. I'm sort of getting there via the 'Edit' function but it means that I have to upload, look and take notes, hit 'Edit', and then write my text. (There's no 't' in idiosyncratic. Perhaps I should seek an alternative spelling ....) [Edited: 09:00 - BobTrips ] | ||
| Andy Leach (RedAndy) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #7 Added: 2005-06-11 01:36:19 | |
| I'm not sure I feel the need for the two step 'upload then comment' work flow. All posters can edit their own posts - will that do as a permanent fix? I suspect that, as you say, you'll be in a minority in working that way. For me having the original image on my hard drive and having worked on it recently is enough. I always compare before I post ( then I ignore the obvious and post anyway :-p ) You only have to take notes now because of the reply screen - if it changes to show you everything in the workshop you won't have to anymore, right? Will that help? (testing the quotes thing blah blah droneokay - I give in, how do I post attributed quotes? [quote=RedAndy]blah[/quote] doesn't do it and nor do about 5 variations - what's the secret chant Ali? ) [Edited: 01:48 - RedAndy ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #8 Added: 2005-06-11 08:50:26 | |
| " All posters can edit their own posts - will that do as a permanent fix?" At one time there was discussion of making the ability to edit time limited. (I've seen problems on forums where one person posts, others make follow up posts, the OP edits the initiating post and everything following makes no sense.) --- And I don't think there is anywhere that I can see both images and write as I can with the 'start workshop' page. Looking at what you're talking about is very valuable for me. I want to write something, look at the image(s) to confirm what I've written, .... | ||
| Andy Leach (RedAndy) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #9 Added: 2005-06-12 05:11:56 | |
| The ability to edit is currently time limited, but I haven't paid enough attention to know what that limit is. I agree that people editing their posts after others have gone in is a bit of a pain ( but then, we won't have those people in the pig :-) and a time limit of a few hours would allow you to make your post-posting edits. I think we agree that the 'start workshop' screen is the way to go for the whole thing - 'just' add the other posts etc to the bottom and we're sorted. The only issue is that you (Bob) want to always change/augment/create your post after submitting the revised image, that's a rarity for me and I don't really want another screen to click through after I post. I'd rather just be taken back to the complete workshop. I wish we had a few more people here to pull ideas on useability from - a sample of two is not the best! Adrian...? There are other people on the site too, it'd be great to get some initial feedback from them. [Edited: 05:51 - RedAndy ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #10 Added: 2005-06-12 11:28:57 | |
| What if 'edit opportunity' existed until someone posted an additional bit? ----------------------- I'm thinking not another screen to open, just a 'Submit Re-edit: Browse -> Submit' box on each page. Small. Or a 'Submit Re-edit' clicker on each page that would open a Browse -> Submit pop up. Then---- When the upload was completed a Reply page (retooled Start Workshop page) would open and then then text could be entered while looking at the OP and Re-edit. This would look just like the standard Reply page. The entered text would appear along with the thumbnail of the uploaded image. | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #11 Added: 2005-06-13 08:45:54 | |
| Lots in this discussion: 1) Workshops replies. I'm planning to make it work for everyone... eg. Bob wants a post image, preview, reply. Andy - post image and reply, both can be done from the same form, if there is no text then second screen with the image, if there is text no second form. 2) Timelimited edits... currently 2 hours I agree about the losing the thread of the conversation if edits are abused, but it is so useful to be able to fix typos, reword sections, add extra bits. So options include, dropping the limit to 20mins, only allowing edits if no posts follow it, or based on somekind of post count / membership status... 3) I give in, how do I post attributed quotes? - RedAndySorry Andy - need to add this in to the jeber code panel, [quote]Blah blah[/quote=whoever] - it's on the end as the processing is much simpler (straight replacement, as opposed to pattern matching). [Edited: 03:03 - Ali - typo] | ||
| Andy Leach (RedAndy) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #12 Added: 2005-06-13 17:20:09 | |
| #1 - sounds like the perfect solution. #2 - How do you feel about a compound system? '( scuse the psuedo code ) if ( no new posting ) and (time since this post < X minutes/hours ) then allow edit else //nothing special.... end I don't think the postcount/membership status is neccesarily a good way to go. It also seems like there should be some upper time limit that posts can be revised in, even if there is no following post to the thread. #3 I give in, how do I post attributed quotes? RedAndy Ali Wheeee :-)[Edited: 17:21 - RedAndy ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #13 Added: 2005-06-14 13:36:32 | |
| #1 sounds good to me. Got an ETA? I'd like to do some more recruiting but would rather wait until we get this issue put to bed. #2 I like the 'no more edits' after another post. Having a time limit is fine with me - don't see it making much of a difference one way or another. The compound statement kills both flys with one swat. | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #14 Added: 2005-06-17 10:59:09 | |
| Workshop replies with the new system are in place... I didn't get time to enhance the error checking and running out of time again - off to catch a train. | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #15 Added: 2005-06-17 12:00:41 | |
| Looks really good. Thanks. There is one little problem that I discovered. If I'm looking at an earlier Rev and hit Reply I then get the OP and the last posted Rev rather than the one on which I was commenting. Check "Late Afternoon Nap" - click on Rev 1 and then Reply - you'll see OP and Rev 3. Or "Street Fighter" - click on Rev 1 and then Reply - you'll see OP and Rev 4. --- More - If I'm looking at the OP and click Reply I get the OP and last posted Rev. Should be only the OP. [Edited: 14:16 - BobTrips ] | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #16 Added: 2005-06-21 13:23:22 | |
| "1) Workshops replies. I'm planning to make it work for everyone... eg. Bob wants a post image, preview, reply" Making any progress on this one? (The Edit function in Replies is broken and I'm having to add a second Reply per post.) | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #17 Added: 2005-06-21 18:56:50 | |
| > Making any progress on this one? It works already - just don't add anything to the text.... only add an image. Broke edit - will fix tomorrow. Added the ability to edit the exif data today... (a few bugs in there to fix as well) | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #18 Added: 2005-06-22 11:24:28 | |
| I must be doing something wrong. I just added a Re-edit to Ben's baboon shot. Browse/no text/Submit. My image was added but I saw no opportunity to add my text prior to the image/reply being posted. | ||
| Ali Watters (Ali) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #19 Added: 2005-06-22 15:56:09 | |
| I really don't know what's happening - should be fool-proof - no insult intended ;) Can you run a few tests on the beta club - the virgin mary image is where I've tested on the live system... | ||
| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Post Count: Joined: | Msg: #20 Added: 2005-06-22 16:11:32 | |
| Virgins - you got it. ;o) Works on your Virgin, not mine. Check your Virgin picture in Beta and then my Mother/Daughter. It's not working on images that have no previous Replies. Apparently. (I hadn't seen it because I've been first on the Re-edits that I've posted, I assume.) | ||
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