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Original - Russ Pearce (rrruss)
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Russ Pearce (rrruss)
Msg: #1


May 30th 2007
02:57:36
Another panorama from me! We took a trip up to the wine producing area of Cafayate in the Salta region of Northern Argentina. I've boosted the saturation a bit but obviously I'm not happy with the burn out in the sky on the left. Am I better off cropping or is there something else I can do about it?
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #2


May 30th 2007
04:42:20
Here's a couple of ideas.  First I used the Burn tool to make the mountains a bit darker, bring out some detail.  Then I used the Paint Brush, selected a blue from an area of the sky, set the opacity to ~20%, and painted some color into the pure white areas.  

I didn't do a careful job, just enough to illustrate an idea.  Let's see what you can make it look like.   ;o)


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Justin Watson (Justin)
Msg: #3


May 30th 2007
11:14:49
hmm not sure about this one myself. I agree with Bob's suggestions. Its good to practice panorama techniques, but not sure this photo really grabs me in any way.

A suggestion to try. Take the panorama shots in a portrait orientation and join them. Still take it as a horizontal panorama just try it shooting portrait orientation. Sometimes you can get a better result and worth practicing. Not sure it would have been better for this shot, but maybe we'd have got some more foreground to add to the photo....
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #4


May 31st 2007
02:37:31
Nice shot - I like the way the rows of vines provide perspective, but I suspect Justin might be right about shooting in vertical in this case. I tend to think that pano's are better with a strong edge, or a diminished edge - this just feels slightly cut off, your glacier shot was a perfect example of a "diminished edge" pano IMO. The two I've linked at the end of this post are "strong edge" panos - where the edges anchor the frame.

The solution to the sky is to shoot an HDR panorama. Set the camera to auto-exposure bracket, then set it to -2 0 +2 - check that you're getting the whole dynamic range by looking at the histogram. Then shoot each frame of the panorama as usual - but as a bracket set. Stitch it using the latest version of PTgui Pro, which is HDR aware.

I've shot a number of HDR panos in the past, and they've been... tricky... to merge well - but they're not an insoluble problem with the right software. That was before PTgui Pro came along - I suspect that'll do things far more easily :)

I'd stitch/mergeToHDR in PTgui, then tonemap in Photomatix myself - as it gives you more flexibility. If I remember rightly, both panos on this page were HDR: HK2007
Russ Pearce (rrruss)
Msg: #5


May 31st 2007
19:11:03
Okay, I lost patience trying to use the burn tool on the mountains so i went back to my original idea of rotating slightly and cropping, plus filling in a bit of the burnt out sky.

It's not easy using a compact digital to make panoramas is it?! I tried a couple in portrait but the camera only gives assistance in landscape so the joins were not great and the software struggled a bit to give me enough surface area to work with! I must practice more at judging the alignments with no assistance.

I will post a panoramic soon of the amazing landscape of Cafayate.

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Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #6


June 1st 2007
13:55:50
At least the camera gives assistance in landscape orientation - with dSLRs it's either guesstimate, or buy a proper panoramic tripod head ;)

It's easiest to shoot pano from a tripod, but you need to ensure that the tripod legs are 100% level - so a tripod with a sprit-level built in is handy there...

Looking forward to the next installment!
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