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Discussion on: Image 1259 - "Stormy Sunset"

Discussion, revisions and constructive criticisms of Image 1259 - "Stormy Sunset"

Original - Zoe Renshaw (Zoe)
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CameraPanasonic » Dmctz1
Original Date2006-09-21 18:24:40
Focal Length5.2 mm
Aperturef 2.8
ISO80
Exposure Time1/60 sec
FlashNo Flash
TripodNo
[Full Exif]
Photographers Note:
Just happened to be looking out the window at the hotel and took a quick snap. Thought it turned out quite well.
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #1


April 9th 2007
07:26:23
You did a very good job with composure and exposure.  The sky shows a lot of detail and nothing is blown out.

I'd suggest that the sky is your subject and that cropping off some of the bottom would make it more dominant.  I also cloned out the two bright lights which I found distracting.

Revision: 2
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Justin Watson (Justin)
Msg: #2


April 9th 2007
08:42:33
I like the original, but agree with bob those two lights are distracting.
Zoe Renshaw (Zoe)
Msg: #3


April 11th 2007
04:14:37
I didn't even notice lights, I can see them now. thanks.

Not sure about such a severe crop. might be just a little off the bottom

Revision: 3
Zoe Renshaw (Zoe)
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #4


April 11th 2007
05:16:34
I like your crop better.

Here's a little site tip.  If you hit Reply - even if you have nothing to say - you will get a page that will allow you to scroll the various versions side by side.  That way you can directly compare Version 1 to V2, or V1 to V3, or ....

Hummm.....  Looking at V2 vs. V3 maybe something in the middle....

Your call.
Zoe Renshaw (Zoe)
Msg: #5


April 13th 2007
06:39:11
Maybe, Not sure.

Revision: 4
Zoe Renshaw (Zoe)
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #6


April 20th 2007
01:20:19
Nice shot Zoe! A few thoughts though - as has already been mentioned, maybe a fraction too much black at the bottom of the frame - I like your R4 best so far. Something I notice - the tower seems to be leaning fractionally left, so perhaps rotate 0.75°CW? If you want to boost the cloud detail, try a little USM - wide radius (say 30%, 40px, 0) should boost the apparent contrast. I think if I'd been taking the shot, I'd have zoomed in on the tower more - as it stands it's a lovely sunset, and there are some buildings in it - zoomed in, the tower would become more of a focal point. Ideally getting closer and lower would give it more impact I think.

Thoughts?
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #7


April 20th 2007
01:21:17
Hah, forgot to upload the revision I was asking your thoughts on - sharp ;)

Revision: 5
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #8


April 20th 2007
03:39:31
That's nice.  But you lost some very beautiful tones in the upper left clouds.  

The subtlety of the sky is what I like in this shot.
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #9


April 20th 2007
15:53:45
Yes, but I'm not convinced you can make a photograph stand on the sky alone... That's why I'd have gone closer and shot lower - so you'd get the tower more prominent, but all the sky in as well. For me sunsets need something in the foreground layer to really work as photographs - but then that's me ;)
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #10


April 20th 2007
17:11:20
Hit 'Reply' and look at R4 vs. R5.  R5 is more a grabber, but R4 is a shot that I'd stand in front of for a while just to enjoy the wonderful shades and tones in the clouds.

I'm not arguing that one doesn't need something on the ground to anchor the sky.  And I agree that setting the shot up so that the tower was the dominant feature of the ground might have made a great shot.  But she was shooting from her room's window....  
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Revision: 5
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Bob Wallace (BobTrips)