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Discussion on: Image 110 - "Poncho Sunset"

Discussion, revisions and constructive criticisms of Image 110 - "Poncho Sunset"

Original - Andy Leach (RedAndy)
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CameraOlympus » C5050z
Original Date2004-01-24 21:19:14
Focal Length15 mm
Aperturef 8
ISO64
Exposure Time250/100 sec
FlashNo Flash
TripodYes
[Full Exif]
Photographers Note:
I like this image but suspect it has a bit wrong with it technicaly - the glare around the lights for a start. I'd love to hear what else is wrong with it, what I should do better next time and how/if I should fix it up. Not too much to ask is it? :-)

El Poncho, Chile (nr Lago Todos Los Santos ) fyi - camping is free on this beach and there's a mini-mart just out of shot. Lago Todos Los Santos/Volcan Osorno hiking guide
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #1


June 10th 2005
01:04:57
I didn't realize that I was looking at beach/water until I read the Note.  Partially because I got caught up in the light.

I'm a bit too tired to work on it tonight, but I'm thinking that cloning out the 'stuff along the bottom.  (Don't think cropping would be best.)  Trying to pull more detail from the boat so that it would be more of a visual clue.

In addition to the light what I really like is the way the picture grabs you and drags you to the lower light and then takes you on a long journey angling up to the left, curving to the right, and off into the upper right.  You encourage more eye exercise with this shot than any I can ever recall seeing.

(But don't get too big a head over that last sentence.  I've got a very bad memory.  ;o)

I really do like this shot.  How about cloning out the intruding tree branch in the upper left?  Maybe selectively sharpening the beach stones? (Or maybe not....)  Just some free association thinking here.  How about killing the power line between the two light posts?  Tree branch really needs to go - breaks the path.  Ooohhh, people, just saw them.  Not sure I like that.  Might mean that you loose some of the 'gloomy'.

I should go to bed....

White spots.  White spots below the building.  Out, out damned spots.

Goodnight sweet prince.....    (Willie exits stage left.)


[Edited: 01:06 - BobTrips ]
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #2


June 10th 2005
09:10:54
OK, maybe I was just tired.  Or maybe I didn't see the "Humboldt's Finest" that might have been in the brush that I was burning.  I've cleaned up so many old grow spots on this piece of land....


Anyway, I think there might be something to learn from the taking of this picture.  One often hears about how 'lazy' photographers get because they shoot digital.  That they can just 'clean it up later with Photoshop'.

Here's a good example of why it isn't so.  Had Andy stepped forward just a bit, used a slightly wider lens, he could have gotten the shot without the tree branch and foreground junk.  Cloning is going to be a lot of work.

(I'm assuming that he didn't intentionally include the branch for 'framing'.  Because, if so, it didn't work....  ;o)
Andy Leach (RedAndy)
Msg: #3


June 11th 2005
03:29:06
pop *sigh* Well, it was nice for a night anyway...

Thanks for your feedback. I'd never noticed the people or the crud at the bottom before, or that the branch broke the path! At this point there's no way I'm going on a cloning mission like that and a recrop would lose the eye pull that the image has. So, I think I'll accept that I need to pay more attention to the periphery (sp?) of my photos in future. As you say a single step or change of angle might well have solved most of the problems, hopefully I'll see them next time before I shoot and definitely before I post ;-)

'Cleaning up old grow spots' - you mean getting rid of everything that isn't a weed I assume?


Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #4


June 12th 2005
23:39:40
Well, I just couldn't help myself.  Here's a quick clone job.  I didn't do a really careful job as I couldn't get a 'full size' image for downloading.  Something's broken.

It should be good enough to let you see what I was suggesting.

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'Grow spots' - previous agricultural activity on this piece of land involved putting up chicken wire and cattle wire surrounds in order to keep the deer from eating the crops.  And the grow spots were spread all over the place in an attempt to keep the Feds from finding them.  

And then there was black poly water pipe running all over the place.  All the Feds had to do was follow the water lines.  ;o)

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I think it's a great shot and worth some editing effort.

[Edited: 23:44 - BobTrips ]

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Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Andy Leach (RedAndy)
Msg: #5


June 13th 2005
00:19:07
Wow, makes quite a difference, there's so much more space. I'd never noticed it being claustrophobic ( you'd think I walked around with my eye shut... ). I will give it a go, but it's gonna have to wait for PS and the healing tool, my cloning skills are not up to the task to try it Gimp.

I'd figured that grow spots were for the more interesting crops. Is weed not a euphemism in the US? I must've wandered into the mother tongue again... It must be pretty easy hunting out there some seasons and I love the idea of following the irrigation to the pot - very, very funny.
[Edited: 00:20 - RedAndy ]
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