 | Discussion on: Image 489 - "Dubai Sunset" |
| Discussion on: Image 489 - "Dubai Sunset" |
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| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Msg: #1 March 3rd 2006 14:43:56 | Nice picture. I like it. You picked a good moment to push the shutter and I like the way you framed it. I posted a workshop in order to offer some suggestions. First, that little white spot a bit right of center. Not sure what it is, perhaps a bit of lint on the lens? Anyway, I cloned it out. And the bright area in the bottom left corner looks like lens flare to me. I cloned it away as well. Then I decreased the contrast to make the ripples in the sand to show more (at least on my monitor). Looking at the two versions side by side I think I should have selected the dark and changed the contrast there and not on the sky/sun. Any, hope this gives you some ideas of what you might do. And welcome to the Pig. |
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| sakina elle (sakina) Msg: #2 March 6th 2006 21:39:34 | Thanks Bob! I think that little white spot in the centre of the picture is actually a bit of lens flare as well. Do you have any suggestions on how to avoid that when I'm actually taking the picture instead of having to clone it out in post-processing? (I'm very new to photoshop, so it'll probably take me a while to learn all the tricks, including how to clone stuff out!) I like what you did to make the ripples in the sand more noticeable - when I was taking the shot, it was the ripples I had originally wanted to catch, but ended up taking this picture and liked the silhouette type effect as well. I took another shot which was exposed for the sands instead of the sun, not sure if it's worth combining the two images together to get more detail in the sand (again, i have no idea how to do that!) |
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| Bob Wallace (BobTrips) Msg: #3 March 7th 2006 00:17:48 | The best way to avoid lens flare is to not let bright light hit the lens. A bit hard to do when shooting the sun. ;o) In general lens hoods help a lot when the edge of the lens is close to the light source. If your camera won't accept a lens hood then use something - hat, book, hand - and hold it between lens and light but just out of view. I don't know how to avoid lens flare when shooting into the sun as you were doing. Perhaps someone else can help us both out. I got the ripples to show by boosting contrast a bit. (I think. I'll go back and check.) Your 'Revision 2' really brings out the ripples but you've lost that great sky. And there's a bit of green that might need disappearing.... I'm thinking that there might be a good solution using Layers. You could adjust one layer for the sky, the other for the sand, and then blend. (Perhaps Adrian will step in and give us a lesson.) -- OK, reading a bit more carefully.... Looks like your Revision 2 is the other photo you took? | |||||||||||||||||||||
| Adrian Warren (AdrianW) Msg: #4 March 7th 2006 12:01:51 | Nice shot! I particularly like the colours of the sky, the irregular silhouette of the horizon, and the ripples in the sand. Bob suggested I stick my head in here, so here I am! Right, here's a quick attempt at bringing the image into balance more. If you're going to blend exposures then it helps if you have the camera on a tripod, that way you can merge them automatically in Photoshop using MergeToHDR, that said it's not the end of the world if you can't do it - just makes things a bit more complex ;) Lens flare can be exaggerated by a dirty lens, so if you do shoot into the sun - make sure the lens is completely clean! Filters can sometimes be an issue too, particularly poor quality ones - try removing the filter if it's safe to do so - obviously there's a lot of sand around here, so it might not be... Took both images into Photoshop, the Original first, and then I pasted the Revision 2 (R2) into it as a new layer. Reduced R2 opacity to 50% so that I could see whether it aligned with the Original or not. It didn't, so I dragged the R2 layer until the middle points matched. Then I grabbed the corner handle and rotated R2 until it matched fully. Then I used a wide Eraser to knock out most of the sky (there are automated methods to merge images, see - Luminous-landscape.com - but they'll look weird with flare like this), then used a fine Eraser to work down the edges. Finally fixed the flares using the Clone Tool. Small flare was corrected using just standard small Clone Tool @ 50% opacity, pick up areas from the left and right of the flare. The larger flare was more complex, due to its size and the colour shift. First fixed the colour - used Clone Tool in Color mode @ 50% - that left a patch which was the right colour and detail, but too bright. To fix that I used the Dodge Tool @ 1% on Shadows and then Midtones. Used Curves to darken the sand layer a fraction, one point, pulled bottom right. Finally, flattened the image to merge the layers. I hope you like it :) |
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| sakina elle (sakina) Msg: #5 March 12th 2006 03:19:12 | I love it, thankyou! Now I've just got to fiddle around and see if I can replicate that using photoshop myself, here comes the interesting part! :) These workshops are a great idea though, I learn something new about photography and photoshop every time i visit this site! | |||||||||||||||||||||
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