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Discussion on: Image 427 - "They Came For The Sunset"

Discussion, revisions and constructive criticisms of Image 427 - "They Came For The Sunset"

Original - Craig Ferguson (cfimages)
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Original Date2005-10-01 23:11:32
Focal Length17mm
Aperturef4
ISO100
Exposure Time1/50
Flashno
TripodYes
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Photographers Note:
Sunset the night before a Category 4-5 typhoon. A new viewing platform, a nice sunset and lots of people. 4 hours later, a typhoon hit, with winds stronger than Katrina.
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #1


October 6th 2005
13:28:44
You did a good job with capturing/processing this shot. I like the way you've produced silhouettes from the people yet let the railing show faintly.

I tried a couple of things just to see how they would work.  First I cropped off some of the bottom - some of the solid black part.  To me that makes the colors of the sunset more 'important' in the picture.  Afterwards I realized that it also moved the image closer to the 'rule of thirds'.

Then I boosted contrast a bit just to make it more dramatic.  Perhaps a bit over the top....

Revision: 1
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Camille (cnut)
Msg: #2


October 7th 2005
00:59:50
Craig,
Creat capture.  I like how Bob cropped it but I preferred the original's coloring.
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #3


October 14th 2005
16:24:53
Nice shot! This really is an amazing sunset. Not sure about the people though, they're very indistinct - they draw my eye, but then I come up short since they're in the murk. I'd either pull them out, or crop them out... This is a very quick'n'dirty attempt to pull them out - NewLayerViaCopy, then used Select/ColorRange to grab the sky, then grabbed the bits I'd missed using Lasso. New Layer of that. On the lowest layer, used Shadow/Highlight S:100%, then reduced the magenta using ColorBalance. Set the middle layer to 50%. Flattened.

Sadly the description took longer to write than the actual WS ;)

Revision: 2
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #4


October 14th 2005
17:11:06
Hummmm....  

Got to say that I don't like what you've produced here.  Good skill demonstration in extracting more detail but IMO it ruins the effect of the photo.

What you're showing is a bunch of people paying no attention to the sunset.  With Craig's OP the silhouettes give the impression of numerous people captivated by the sky.
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #5


October 14th 2005
18:05:01
Oh well, you can please some of the people some of the time ;)
Craig Ferguson (cfimages)
Msg: #6


October 16th 2005
08:10:42
Interesting revisions, both of you.

Bob - I like what you've done with the sky, but not the shadows. A question - do you have a calibrated monitor? When I view my photo on my hardware calibrated monitor, there's definite detail in the shadows, but when I look at it on an uncalibrated display, it looks all black. I'm wondering how my OP looks on your monitor - is there shadow detail?

Adrian - I like the way you've pulled the details out, but it might look better with a little less S/H correction.

The reason that the people are looking away from the sunset, is that there was a performance taking place in the east. And the Taiwanese seem to prefer noise and artificial lighting to natures show. It never ceases to amaze me.
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #7


October 16th 2005
15:00:28
Hi Craig,

I am dealing with a less than excellent monitor.  I've calibrated it as best I can with software, hardware calibration is not an option at this time.  This screen just does not have the dynamic range that one would want.  I can't resolve the last couple of squares on each end of the typical display.  

I'm not seeing any appreciable detail in the shadows.  I get a faint presentation of the rail but everything else is black.  And that makes the image interesting to me.  Try darkening the bottom and see what you think.  ;o)

There is an image on Trek Earth that I really like, one of a group of monks viewing the sunset at Siem Reap.  What I see on my screen really reminds me of that shot.
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