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Discussion on: Image 286 - "Gates of the Karoo"

Discussion, revisions and constructive criticisms of Image 286 - "Gates of the Karoo"

Original - Walt Foster (Walt)
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CameraCanon » Digital Rebel
Original Date2004-03-14 14:02:39
Focal Length29 mm
Aperturef 10
ISO100
Exposure Time1/200 sec
FlashNo Flash
TripodNo
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Photographers Note:
Taken in one of the passes between the Western Cape and the Karoo plateau to the north. South Africa
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #1


July 12th 2005
02:53:29
Cropping off some sky helps, I think.  All that blue seemed to depress the rest of the picture.  Too bad that someone thought it a good idea to put a tower there.

"Depress" probably isn't the word I wanted.

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Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Walt Foster (Walt)
Msg: #2


July 12th 2005
19:03:05
Definite improvement with less sky... though I must admit I'm greatly enamored of those deep blue African skies :0). I'm going to try to remove the tower and I'll repost when I'm done. I mean, if Adrian can take out an entire crane, surely I can deal with a tiny tower. ;)
Bob Wallace (BobTrips)
Msg: #3


July 12th 2005
19:09:08
That goes to the discussion of how much post processing is "good".  (And let me say that I don't have a position here.)

Adrian removed something that is/was temporarily present.  You would be removing something that is (unfortunately) somewhat permanent.  I suppose that's no problem as you aren't using the image in a 'photojournalistic' manner.
Walt Foster (Walt)
Msg: #4


July 12th 2005
19:45:53
Good point... and I guess maybe the answer for me lies in the ultimate purpose of the photo. If I'm simply trying to document my trip or use it to educate others, then maybe the journalistic approach is best. If, on the other hand, I'm trying to use the photo as art to evoke some sort of emotional response in ther viewer, then maybe some artistic license is acceptable.
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #5


July 13th 2005
11:25:56
Interesting shot! I find the texture of it very harsh though, it's almost hard to look at for me. As Bob says, less sky would help - although I'd settle halfway between his workshop and your original post I think. The sky is almost bizarrely flat in colour, it's really noticeable when you look at the histogram view.

Again a slight colour balance issue I think, I'd be tempted to warm up the midtones slightly - but that's because I perceive the upper part of the rockface as being neutral, rather than slightly blue/cyan. Of course some rocks are that colour, so that's open to debate.

The tower? Doesn't really bother me to be honest. The composition feels a bit "flat" though, there's no depth to the image if you see what I mean?
Walt Foster (Walt)
Msg: #6


July 13th 2005
21:00:25
I cropped out some of the sky and added a warming filter to the midtones as suggested. You're right Adrian... the depth is lacking from the angle I shot it... hard to differentiate between the ridge in the foreground and the peaks in the back. Would have been nice to have a cloud or two in the sky to break it up a liittle.

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Walt Foster (Walt)
Adrian Warren (AdrianW)
Msg: #7


July 14th 2005
12:22:23
Yup, that's much better IMO :)

I must admit I always look forward to spring and autumn for those days when the skies are blue, but with a few Cumulus clouds floating around. By far the best skies as far as I'm concerned, unless you can find some really black strong thunderheads of course...
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